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Was a disappointment.


1- It's so nice the cloning machine is able to make clothing and guns.

2- Martha Jones- had no purpose in this story at all, except padding. Remove her, and she could have easily been replaced by Donna, or Martha's scenes could have been eliminated completely with no harm to the story.

3- Jenny can't regenerate. But she can breathe out vortex energy that she got from ... somewhere ... and come back to life.

4-Donna has mighty temp skills that enables her to determine that the strings of numbers she's seeing represent a date, when all she has to go on is that different parts of the tunnels have different numbers, and (I'm guessing here) the further out the the tunnels are, the higher the numbers... so many other things they could have been, and there wasn't nearly enough information given to be able to determine that the numbers represent dates.

5- Speaking of dates... seven days. That's a lot of tunnels to dig in seven days. But then, there were robots to help, I think. But they apparently disappeared when they were done. After sealing off all the important parts of the tunnels that contained plot points. And then the head of command died, and silly him, he never set up a second in command. On a ship. Colonizing another planet. So ... in the span of one week, every single entity that had been on that original ship had been killed and replaced to the point where no one remembered anything at all about the mission, or the fact that these warring factions had apparently been able to get along well enough at one point to be cooped up in a spaceship for who knows how long and then co-operate to build a large colony structure and begin a terraforming process? And everyone forgot to take notes, or keep a diary, or anything...

6- How did any of the colonist clones know there was a shuttlecraft, especially Jenny, who wasn't derived from a member of the crew? How did she know how to pilot it, when it was clearly established that the cloning machine didn't give her any of the Doctor's knowledge, only knowledge she'd need to be a soldier in the war?

6- Wouldn't cloning the Doctor make Jenny more his sister than his daughter, anyway?

7- Nice flips, Jenny. How did you keep your lovely long blond ponytail from breaking a beam?

8- As far as rallying cries to psyche up the start of a new civilization go, the Doctor really could of done a lot better than, "Base it on someone who wouldn't do it!"

9- The blood-thirsty soldiers made peace quickly and easily. If only it was always that easy.

10- The TARDIS can't speak fishman, it seems.

This episode had only one objective: to introduce the character of Jenny. That was done in the first five minutes. The rest of the episode was completely irrelevant and unnecessary, and very poorly written. EDIT: I don't even want to start trying to make sense of the entire time paradox mess.


This was not just the worst episode so far of Season 4; this is one of the worst episodes of Doctor Who ever.

I'd rather watch The Gunfighters again.

Date: 2008-05-11 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
The Hath were cute, though. I want one.

Date: 2008-05-11 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsdr.livejournal.com
The Hath were cute, though.


I thought they had tremendous unrealized potential. But for the life of me, I can't understand why they reacted to Martha the way they did, unless the whole touchy-feely heavy petting orgy was brought on by a human being nice to one of their kind, and opening up a new realm of experience for them.

Date: 2008-05-11 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
I think that was the nub of the gist, yeah.

Date: 2008-05-11 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsdr.livejournal.com
I normally avoid a lot of the fan reactions, but this time I went out and looked at some of them to see if I was in the minority by not liking this episode (I am). I'm astonished and boogled by how many comments I've seen by people who think Jenny is going to turn out to be the Rani.


Date: 2008-05-11 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsdr.livejournal.com
Exactly. It's right up there with season one's rampant belief that Adam was going to become Davros.

And some people also seem to think that Donna will be the Rani. And that the ring Donna is wearing was the Master's (it wasn't; I checked).

Date: 2008-05-11 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonemagpie.livejournal.com
It wasn't vortex stuff that brought her back- she was revived by the terraforming stuff (the green tint to what she exhaled) in a similar manner to Spock getting brought back by the Genesis Device.

Also, being that she was still within the first 16 hours of incarnation, she'd have regrown any damaged organs anyway (like the Doc's hand) without regenerating

Date: 2008-05-11 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsdr.livejournal.com
I can accept these explanations (I'm color blind, so I was judging the gas by it's wispiness being like the vortex energy).

But it's not enough to save the episode. I _really_ like the point you made in your blog about Jenny being a child of rape; I hadn't even considered that.

Date: 2008-05-11 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsdr.livejournal.com
"its" not "it's". Gah.

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